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Camel
2012-01-25, 12:31
So the GW-M 5600 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160717545761?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1536wt_1185) is said to only need a battery replacement.
Do you guys have any experience with replacing battery in Tough Solars?
I am wondering if it only is the battery that fails as it should last about 10 years.

Worth bidding?

rutteger
2012-01-25, 12:35
If the price is OK it might be worth a look. I've had to replace tough solar cells in a year old Riseman GW-9200, a two year old G-5500 and a couple of others. The cells are meant to last several years but don't always. The price of a new cell isn't cheap so bare that in mind when you bid.

Good luck!

Camel
2012-01-25, 12:44
Thanks! Very informative post :).
I've found rechargeable batteries on ebay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Maxell-ML2016-ML-2016-Rechargeable-3V-Battery-w-tab-/160437617936?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item255ad3c510#ht_1436wt_952), 5-6 with postage. Not sure if these are the right ones. If I get the watch, I will obviously check what battery is inside and buy the exact same one.

Oh man I just saw your signature. It's quite a collection, congrats! :)

rutteger
2012-01-25, 12:49
Thanks! Very informative post :).
I've found rechargeable batteries on ebay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Maxell-ML2016-ML-2016-Rechargeable-3V-Battery-w-tab-/160437617936?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item255ad3c510#ht_1436wt_952), 5-6 with postage. Not sure if these are the right ones. If I get the watch, I will obviously check what battery is inside and buy the exact same one.

A CTL1616 is the cell you need > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CASIO-Rechargeable-Watch-Battery-CTL1616-CTL-1616-UK-/230729523059?pt=UK_Jewellery_Watches_WatchAccessor ies_SpareParts_SM&hash=item35b88d1f73#ht_558wt_1396 . It'll be around GBP10-12.


Oh man I just saw your signature. It's quite a collection, congrats! :)

Cheers :cool: I am just an amateur compared to many on the site though ;)

Camel
2012-01-25, 12:54
Ah, so it is more expensive then. Again - very informative, thanks :).
I will see how the bidding progresses!

macspite
2012-01-26, 00:53
I would suggest that you don't go wild on the biddi - it may well be the battery at fault and that obviously you need to factor in, plus the postage. It may be, with an unscrupulous seller, that they have already tried a battery replacement and it turns out to be a fault in the solar cells or the charging circuit. You can replace the rechargeable battery with an ordinary CR-1616 if that is the case.

Best scenario, which occasionally happens is that the watch has been away from a light source for far too long. Exposing it to very bright light for a few days should wake it up and charge it back up to normal.

OK, just logged into eBay and found that it is a watch that was on my list, just 20 minutes to go. I have been working tonight, what's your excuse for being up late? :D Postage is sensible, price is reasonable at the moment, let us know how you get on - I will stand back and keep out of the bidding, need to conserve cash for something important as yet to be paid for work leading up to Christmas :(

Camel
2012-01-26, 01:04
I'm passing on it! So if someone wanted it, there's 5 minutes left :)

macspite
2012-01-26, 01:25
Well, it went for 30 quid including postage. Needs a battery so that's another tenner - there are some solar atomics available new for around 60 quid or keep watching eBay - there are always plenty of watches to choose from.

Smart decisions - ask here for advice ( ask three people and you will get at least three opinions ) and to pass on the watch, bit too much of a gamble which is why I left it alone at the end. I know how frustrating it can be though, to watch an item for a few days and then, for whatever reason, to abandon it at the last minute.

Is the GW-M5600 the model that you particularly want?

Camel
2012-01-26, 01:26
I passed on it. If I was collecting watches, I would have gone for it. But for now, I only want one. I have already had GW-M5600 (stolen).

So I'm going to give another one a chance - this bad boy (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220938114043?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_965wt_1185) I like the most of all g-shocks I've seen. There is still small hesitance between this one and G7800 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-SHOCK-Large-LCD-G7800B-1-BLACK-Multi-display-Font-Brand-New-watch-/330676845456?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item4cfde03b90#ht_1788wt_1185).

I'll try to bid on the DW-5600MS. If the price doesn't go crazy high, I will get my hands on it :).

PS. It is so nice to discover places like this forum. I did not know how many G-Shocks there were and how crazy you can get over them. But now I totally understand it and I am actually starting to think about buying more and more g-shocks in the future. They are great watches!!!

PS2. Oh shoot, you're right - it does get pretty late :D

macspite
2012-01-26, 01:44
The "bad boy" looks to be a bit of alright :) Lettering needs to be redone, easy job and there is a guide to doing that on the wiki. But the 7800 looks good too.

Decisions, decisions <sigh>

Both would be a good idea :devilish:

Camel
2012-01-26, 02:00
Did you mean this guide? - http://forums.watchuseek.com/f17/brief-bezel-stealthing-guide-126722.html

Now I can really feel when the collecting starts... When you really want both!

macspite
2012-01-26, 02:21
Did you mean this guide? - http://forums.watchuseek.com/f17/brief-bezel-stealthing-guide-126722.html



Not that guide - this: http://www.g-shockzone.com/showwiki.php?title=How-to-repaint-G-Shock-bezel-text

Our very own G-Shockzone guide on our very own wiki. Full credit and kudos to our moderator for getting the wiki working, now all we need are contributions.

And you may want to consider this - a third choice for your watch (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?campid=5336811139&customid=forum&toolid=10001&pub=5574641556&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2F160720067 155%3FssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT%26_trksid%3Dp 3984.m1438.l2649%23ht_1490wt_1272)http://rover.ebay.com/roverimp/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?pub=5574641556&toolid=10001&campid=5336811139&mpt=[CACHEBUSTER]

By the way are you an insomniac, a night shift worker or live in a time zone sufficiently far forward or back from GMT for this to be normal waking hours? :cool:

I am only awake because I finished work at half past one but have waited until 0300 to send off an email regarding tonight's work so it looks like we have been working a little longer. Don't want to make the job look too easy!

Camel
2012-01-26, 03:19
I will actually need to think which way to go. Either to brush the paint off somehow or paint it as it's shown in the guide. I thought it originally was paintless, but it'd be up to me anyway ;).
Thanks for the links! I like the wiki! As for the ebay auction, I feel like I have all of g-shock ebay items memorised by now :D.

Why still awake? I'm a student and currently I have a week off between semesters so there's no reason not to stay up till late ;)
Your manager is a lucky man to have such a hard worker on a team ;D

rutteger
2012-01-26, 12:58
Good choice giving the GW-M5600 a swerve. They do occasionaly go down to 50 new and boxed (assuming you're in the UK).

The auction linked is a DW-5600MS like this

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It's a cool model. The bezel is stealthed from the off, assume the white in the lettering is either dirt or someone has attempted to paint it. Wrong strap fitted, not sure why. The proper one is similar but should have '1545' on it. If that's the model you're after I'd have a look at this DW-5600MS brand new on eBay for 55 > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hot-Genuine-Watch-G-Shock-Black-DW-5600MS-1-1DR-/130633662116?pt=UK_Jewelery_Watches_Watches_MensWa tches_GL&hash=item1e6a5f7ea4#ht_876wt_1396 . Assuming again you're in the UK you run the risk of customs BUT it's brand new!

There's a guide on a torch forum about recharging a CTL-1616, will have to dig it out for the wiki.

Camel
2012-01-26, 13:23
There really are a couple of puzzling inconsistencies in the auction of "DW-5600MS" I mentioned before (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220938114043?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_965wt_1185) and other pictures of the watch I've found on web.

1661 - 4 differences.

1. 200 meter/20 bar
2. shock resist arrow \/ is yellow/grey
3. dots beside mode/adjust/light/light are grey/red
4. the strap issue - it is said in the auction that it has been changed to the "more appropriate"
5. is the display brighter as well?
6. no picture showing the back of the watch
7. "new without tags"
8. regardless all the above, the seller has v. good sales record when it comes to feedback.

It really looks as if it was pieced together from a couple of different watches!
The funniest thing is... that I think I like it this way.
I contacted the seller regarding the authenticity of the watch, we'll see what they say :confused:

rutteger
2012-01-26, 14:55
I suspect the watch being sold is actually a DW-5600B

1662

This would explain the differences to the dial and the comment regarding the strap - the DW-5600B comes as stock with a fabric strap. Cool write up on this watch on the 50Gs website > http://50-gs.blogspot.com/2009/09/39-millitary-specs-for-every-timezone.html .

Camel
2012-01-26, 17:16
You are very right, sir!
Here's the response from the seller:

Hi,

I'm very sorry... the watch is actually a DW-5600B. My mistake although they're very similar models accroding to the internet. It is genuine, just a different model to what I thought.

Best regards,

DCS

So my conspiracy theory failed ;). The bad news is I really like this watch and want it now. The price+postage is already over 65 and there's still 2 hours left.

Thanks :)

rutteger
2012-01-26, 17:22
If it was an intact DW-5600B probably a fair price. As it stands, well, up to you ;)

Camel
2012-01-26, 19:07
IT'S MINE :D.
Not a big fan of the original strap ;).

macspite
2012-01-26, 22:24
Woo Hoo!

The first of many ... :cool:

rutteger
2012-01-27, 11:00
Good work :D Look forward to seeing the watch :)

Camel
2012-01-29, 19:46
I got it :D:D:D.
The watch is amazing, it actually looks even better than I expected. Really really like the way the colours go together - black, silver text, reddish (display) and a little yellow "arrow". Love it :).

Obviously and unfortunately I have already spotted an imperfection. An arrow-shaped "shadow" in the upper center of the screen. It is visible at a certain angle in a certain light. Visible in the pictures below. Do you think it could be steam? It would not be good at all because it would mean it's not waterproof. Do you think it's easy to wipe off once I open the watch? I've never opened a g-shock before, actually. I didn't get the receipt or warranty for the watch, either. I think I could still return it, but I don't want to!

1694
1693

rutteger
2012-01-30, 09:15
Watch looks good, glad you're (mostly) happy.

Not sure on that mark at all. Have had a couple with condensation problems (one from new!), however the condensation has only shown when the watch has gone from a warm to very cold environment and has appeared as obvious moisture right in the middle of the glass. As soon as the watch goes back to a warm place (i.e. indoors) the condensation soon disappeared. As such I'd probably discount condensation i nthis case.

Hard to know what to advise without having the watch to look at. If you aren't happy with the mark to the display (and why should you be) I'd think about returning it. Certainly the seller should take any risk when it comes to opening the case etc.

Camel
2012-01-30, 23:25
Thanks for the input rutteger!
As it turns out, there's a problem with the condensation as well. The watch does get very foggy from the inside when taken outside to the cold. Is there a fix for it?

I like the watch so much that I'm even considering just getting used to its flaws ;).

rutteger
2012-01-31, 10:55
Bad news on the condensation. This can either mean a) the watch was sealed in a humid environment (and often seems to occur with models produced in SE Asia for obvious reasons) or b) water is getting into the watch, most likely water ingress via the seal.

If there is condensation I'd ask the seller to sort it. Alternately you can try yourself.
-Remove the caseback.
-Put the watch somewhere to dry, airing cupboard or in sealed tub of rice will do it.
- Replace the seal (look in the wiki for G-Shock spare parts suppliers).
-Grease the seal with a little silicon grease.
-Replace the back

Camel
2012-01-31, 19:18
We are going all the way off the original topic ;).

I feel like I'm discovering the truth about the watch. It was sold as "new". And I would happily agree to it being new, because it is in mint condition apart from the fact that for some reason it was messed with.
The previous owner unscrewed every single screw on the watch. They did that in the most unprofessional manner with an unsuitable tool - it's visible how the screws are damaged because too big a screwdriver was used. Or the screws are made of a very soft kind of metal and they just deteriorate very quickly and should not be touched. Seems improbable though. So - the watch was opened up. The inner side of the glass was wiped. I am quite certain about it. When seen in direct light, the glass seems to have "scratches". But why would it have scratches on the inside? I think it's just very tiny "hair" left by a cloth. The glass could have been wiped with a tissue which left traces of itself.

I have already bought tweezers and a set of tiny watch screwdrivers on eBay. I am thinking of opening the watch (following these instructions (http://mygshock.com/wiki/How_to_convert_a_plain_DW-5600_LCD_to_a_negative_display)), cleaning the glass inside with a dry micro-fibre cloth (doesn't leave "hair"), drying it on a radiator and putting it back together. It doesn't seem hard at all, just need the tools I ordered. I don't really see how the seller could sort the condensation problem :(. I don't want to return the watch, and judging by the way it was treated before, I don't think the seller is a specialist and I don't want to send it to them asking to fix it. Alright, all out ;)

rutteger
2012-01-31, 21:44
Chewed screws on the caseback are a bad sign.

If you do intend to DIY the job don't forget to at least get some silicone grease for the caseback seal. Might also be worth a new seal whilst you're doing the job.

Camel
2012-01-31, 22:02
Why is it a bad sign? What do you think it means? I don't think they were unscrewed more than once or twice. Very ugly job though :/.
At least? Tell me everything I can do to give the best care to my watch please :).

I requested information about the spare parts for the watch from the support.casio.co.uk. Maybe I could ask the seller to repay the charges for spare parts.

rutteger
2012-01-31, 22:17
You should be able to open the caseback without damaging the screws - just shows a lack of care I suppose. As you mentioned above perhaps they were careless or used poor tools.

Camel
2012-02-02, 09:51
Fixed!
I wiped the glass inside, with cotton buds.
The steamy shadow inside disappeared and condensation did not show again.
To test it, I popped the watch outside for 5-10 minutes. It fogged up on the outside, but not even a bit inside. I will see how it behaves in everyday use. It's weird the condensation didn't appear, because actually I didn't do anything to fix it. Maybe the screws were not tightened properly?
The whole watch was quite greasy inside and on the seal so I did not apply any more grease. Also, I didn't have it.

Well, there actually was another unpleasant surprise for me to be discovered. It's shown in the picture below. And this one will be reported to the seller. Am I thinking correctly? Is the smaller pin a not-g-shock pin?

1726

rutteger
2012-02-02, 11:12
Glad that the condensation issue seems to be sorted. Could have been assembled in a humid environment, or maybe the seal was not seated properly.

Casio do list spring bars as G-Shock spares. I'd not worry too much about a slightly thinner springbar, I normally just use some generic ones off eBay if I ever need spares.